Based on this experience I will now build my new house with this system (wired, not wireless but in case I forget something - which I for sure will - I can add it anytime with their wireless hardware). I’ve purchased a few hardware items from them (I started with a Miniserver Go Air, some door sensors, wireless wall plugs etc.) just for learning. Unlike with my Zwave sensors I have not had any problem so far with the Loxone, at all. The good thing is that even in your case where you start with a classic installation you can retrofit Wireless Loxone (Loxone Air) which is again rock solid. I guess that’s a pretty good business case and if you want any KNX hardware you can always integrate it with their KNX interface. People will tell you “you’re bound to 1 supplier only unlike with KNX” (as Loxone is the only supplier) → yes right, but they already have >100,000 installations that they have to supply with hardware. +++ rock solid, cheaper than KNX, the Home Assistant Loxone integration works flawlessly which was important for me - I wanted the stability of a wired system but the nice user interface of HA I also need to decide if I pay extra for the Gira X1 knx gateway, or if some alternative gateway would be better. I suspect the high pricing for the special wishes are due to the building company using expensive 230V dimmers from Gira. I already have the ETS6 license, as I figured I would be needing this and I made use of the black Friday specials. I would love any advise.įurther info, WAF is always important, but my wife also loves tech, so maybe can forgive the odd issue. I already have a few z-wave sensors and Wifi lights that I have been playing with in the past but this would be on a bigger scale.įrom my understanding, knx with dali for the lighting might be the right option here. So my question is which way is best to go technology wise for the lighting? I am happy to mix and match technologies a little if it makes sense. My wish was to have everything dimmable, and I would love to have RGBW or at least colour temp adjustable. We will generally want LED downlights in a drop ceiling, or some hanging lights, but ideally also LED based. I suspect that this is a simple 230V knx dimmer. Dimming is a significant extra cost of about 200EUR per circuit. The default that is provided is simply switching of lights somehow with knx. Heating is underfloor heating with knx control, and a Gira video doorbell - so far so good. However, now that it is time to put forward our “sonderwuenche” - special wishes, the cost is growing and I suspect part of the problem is how the lighting is being designed.Ĭurrently, all switches are knx buttons. We are in the process of buying a new build apartment here in Germany, which is already planned with a basic Gira knx install. Hi, I am in a very similar position and would love some advise from people. Also they would allow setting sensitivity and can be placed far easier than wired ones. But if I stick to zigbee for this… I could use sensors which not only sense motion but also brightness and temperature. An wired option would be “dumb” PIR sensors + Shelly i3 (one shelly for three sensors). I also want to install motion sensors everywhere… and maybe they will be wireless zigbee devices. With an basic KNX install… even if you could power cycle your for example washing machine … it probably could not provide information about consumption and therefore status of your connected devices. I’m planning on using momentary switches (Taster) everywhere and not the typical on/off switches which would normally be installed.īasic functionality would be available without reliance on any wireless technology.Īnother plus for Shelly: Power metering … which I use in several automations and which enables you to make dumb household appliances smart. So if your HomeAssistant fails… reboots… does not matter… you would still have basic light on/off functionality everywhere! Regarding WAF you should keep in mind, that if you wire each switch to the corresponding shelly, you can archive the basic functionality “out of the box” and without any central unit present. So far my Shelly 1PM and 2.5 devices have been pretty reliable. Right now I really like Shelly and while I’m hesitant to put 50+ wifi shelly devices on a DIN Rail… I really look forward to the Shelly 4 PRO PLUS which should be available next month and is available with an LAN Port. Running every cable to the utility room gives you a lot of flexibility regarding which solution you end up using or may be using in 10-20 years. I’d like to automate almost everything (I already have where I live now) but I don’t think KNX is necessary. I’m also almost committed to do a Sternverkabelung for everything and CAT6 everywhere - including certain outside locations.
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